"Swine Flu": A Disturbing Little Question...
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After researching and reading about the "Swine-Avian" Flu Virus that has killed so many in Mexico, and sickened many in California, Texas, Kansas, New York, and now Minnesota, (And before I finish writing this, I bet there will be another state announcing Flu cases!), there is just one funny little thing that I just can't wrap my mind around and get this all to make sense.
Let me explain how I ended up here at this point where I have this funny little question, and can't completely figure things out in a logical way that satisfies me...
You know, I am looking at the geographical locations of the states in Mexico where cases of this flu epidemic have been reported. And also the locations of reported "swine flu" in the United States. The locations seem to be strategic and spread out, taking into account that we have only heard about a very small tip of the iceberg as far as actual flu cases reported thus far.
Doesn't this seem suspicious to you? It does to me. Usually, when there is an outbreak of a virulent flu, it starts out in one location and then spreads out. It almost seems as if these locations were chosen deliberately to obtain maximum pandemic potential effect. Do you see what I am saying? Spread it around at different locations and wait for it to fan out and spread until the blanks are filled in...
Here is the link to the Google Swine Flu Tracker Map in case you want to follow it:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&t=p&msa=0&msid=106484775090296685271.0004681a37b713f6b5950&source=embed&ll=28.07198,-106.040039&spn=23.914599,43.813477&z=5
(Please don't forget to add Kansas and Minnesota...)
Well, that brings me to the next step in my attempted rational analysis of this mess.
During all the last winter months, West Kentucky was sprayed heavily and constantly with chemtrails (or contrails, however you prefer to call them...) Of course, we had Ice Storm 2009, which was a good exercise in power, cell tower, television, water, and land line phone outages, not to mention no stores and no gas...
One of the added benefits of the spraying, besides our "weather-modification experimental ice storm", was that almost everyone I talked to in my area came down with one hell of a flu virus. Guess what the symptoms were? You got it. Cough, respiratory congestion, fever, sore throat, swollen glands, body aches, fatigue, weakness, and for some, burning eyes, laryngitis, diarrhea, and vomiting.
Hmmmm.... Doesn't that match the symptoms of this "Swine-Avian" flu virus exactly?
This flu virus lasts about 3-4 months, and just can not be shaken off.
I went to the doctor about it when I got it. When I tried to tell him about my symptoms and how terribly sick I had been and for how long, he told me to "Shut up!" I was shocked.
Anyway, there was no flu swab done. As far as I know, no one in my area had a flu swab done. Even though, when I went to the Emergency Room for these very same symptoms and could not even get seen, because it was so packed with people with my same complaints, you would think that it would have been obvious to local health authorities that we had an epidemic going on around here. Many people are still sick with this stuff.
I have not been seeing much in the way of chemtrails for the past 2 weeks. I feel much better now that they are not spraying. Everyone else seems to feel better, also.
Anyway, I really do think that they already dumped this flu virus on us here in Kentucky in January, but our incompetent doctors and health-care workers, coupled with dumbed-down authorities, blew it off, and people got better by themselves. Some died, but not in large enough numbers to draw a lot of attention...
The question I have is this: Why are these reported locations of "Swine Flu" so strategically located, and why are they so sure that this is actually "Swine Flu"? I mean, it just seems so "staged". You know, like they want to make it very clear to us that there is a "Swine Flu Epidemic" and scare the shit out of all of us, so we will want to rush right down to our doctors' offices or to the hospitals to get a flu shot immediately so we won't catch it.
Really, though.
Usually when you go to the doctor and tell him/her that you have these symptoms, they tell you, "Oh yeah, you just caught a little flu virus - just go home, drink lots of fluids and take some Tylenol and you'll feel fine again in a few days". I mean, hasn't that been your experience? Whoever heard of a doctor rush-jobbing a flu swab on you for a little cough, sore throat, body ache thing? Unless, of course, these doctors have been super-indoctrinated to expect a Flu Pandemic beforehand... Which they HAVE. Read the Health-Care Workers - Nurses section at the top left of flutrackers.com and look for the in-services on Pandemics they have been having...
Think about it....
And think real hard about those chemtrails, those tales of "detention camps", "depopulation", global government, underground bases, all those Executive Orders giving the President dictator powers, and those FEMA coffins...
Think about all that has happened in the past 9 years or so: the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, illegal wiretapping, torture, vaccines that cause autism, poisons and pathogens in our food, and in our water, the bailouts...
I know I have been doing just that...
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Yes, this is fear-mongering. There actually is a flu virus, but it is not looking like a normal epidemic pattern. This is deliberate and the locations are strategically places for maximum pandemic effect.
I believe, as I stated in the article, that we have already had this flu virus in Western KY, and also in Washington state and southern Illinois. Many in my area already had this flu, it was just not recognized nor reported as an epidemic. I believe I myself had this flu, and I am still not over it.
But fear-mongering it is! They want us all to have the vaccines, made by Baxter Co., which have already been proven to contain live H5N1/H3N2 avian/human viruses in them. When I became so ill, the antibiotics and other medications I received did not touch this. The only way I got to starting to feel better was with the "Breathe Easy" tea. I think the licorice root in it was what did it.
Licorice root is a natural immune system booster. (I am not trying to sell this stuff, just trying to help someone else get better if they catch this mess)
Hey! 163 people have read this hub and there is only one comment???!!! What's up with that???
Very very strange business. I appreciated your email comment to me thanks. I doubt if too many people are taking the word of napolitano, she still seems to be overwhelmed with her job, and wouldn't believe much of what she says. The awkward spread of this virus makes no sense. a pandemic you would expect to see in the border states is not occurring. Europe and asia seem to be more concerned about it than our leaders. If they are so sure it's of mexico origination, why aren't the borders sealed off to stop the flow north? Any ideas what the strains that are missing from the army lab were? they're playing it down as usual, but that just adds to the weirdness of the whole thing.
349 readers, only 2 people commenting???
Interesting that the also had bird flu in W Kentucky belonging to Perdue. I never saw articles on that either. I just was looking to see what I could find for them to have an excuse to ram this health care plan through and came across it.
Yes we had a declaration of H7 "mild" bird flu in 2 of 4 chicken farms owned is Western KY, by Perdue Farms. The chickens were sacrificed and the farms closed down to be "disinfected". This was a couple of weeks ago. This is the last I have heard about that. Funny you should bring that up.
Something very fishy is going on with this.
Fishiest to me: The chemtrail spraying, then the Ice Storm, and the rash of horrible respiratory flu we had here. Also fishy: why are our doctors in the US standing down on flu swabbing, and the doctors in Mexico caught the virus and typed it???? Why have doctors and health-care workers been inservicing massively on Pandemic response, and why are they keeping mum about outbreaks like the one we had here. Also affected: southern Illinois, Washington State, and others, where friends have reported having had this same flu as early as October of 2008!
Well we received an internal company email to see doctor immediately if we have some flu symptoms but still I didn't get what you meant by strategic locations of this "swine flue". Do you think there is a conspiracy behind and if yes can you elaborate.
I really don't know how it happened. I can not definitely point a finger. I can only say that I am suspicious of its origin and of the locations and timetable of the reported cases. They seem too "strategically located" to me.
From my research, I have discovered that it is extremely unlikely that these 4 viruses (yes, now 4! 2 swine viruses, 1 avian, and 1 human) could have reassorted precisely the way they did naturally. Very unlikely.
Also, I think that the pattern for the progression and simultaneous cases being reported do not seem to be a normal progression of a pandemic. A naturally occurring pandemic should start out in one location and progress slowly to other, more far-away locations than it is... Of course, Mexico City is an international travel hub with flights leaving out to all countries in the world.
Please let me share this from http://www.naturalnews.com/026141.html by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, Natural News Editor with you:
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What seems suspicious to me is the hybrid origin of the viral fragments found in H1N1 influenza. According to reports in the mainstream media (which has no reason to lie about this particular detail), this strain of influenza contains viral code fragments from:• Human influenza• Bird Flu from North America• Swine flu from Europe• Swine flu from AsiaThis is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those some pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs -- in Mexico! -- and spread it to others. (This isn't the only explanation of how it could have happened, but it is one scenario that gives you an idea of the complexity of such a thing happening).Now, on a common sense level, what is the likelihood of such a combination of seemingly unlikely, trans-continental events taking place? At first glance, without the benefit of additional laboratory analysis, it seems extremely unlikely that this could have happened "naturally," without human intervention. It's not outside the realm of possibility, of course, but it seems exceedingly remote that such events happened without some human encouragement.This is perhaps why the internet is smoking hot with talk of swine flu conspiracy theories. Alex Jones is, of course, covering the issue in articles like this one: http://www.infowars.com/medical-dir...If the release of the virus was intentional, there are essentially two explanations for who might be behind it: 1) Governments attempting to reduce the human population, 2) Bio-terrorists attempting to kill lots of people. Or perhaps 3) Those two groups are one and the same! Why we shouldn't dismiss the conspiracy theories outrightMany of the points made in conspiracy articles are well made, in fact: There is both a motive and a means for governments of the world to have played a role in the creation and transmission of this virus. Still, it doesn't mean they did, and NaturalNews will be cautious in reporting such conclusions until more evidence emerges.(UNQUOTE)
I find your article interesting and I am a nurse, I believe that sometimes things are created and this is one of them.
Why doesn't anyone think that the original Spanish Influenza hasn't started up again... there must have been someone in the "axis of evil" out there that could have bought it on the black market and thought they could infect people in mexico ( what greater way to get the unsuspected carriers of the virus into the US) They seem to get in easier than the terrorists do! And then the virus itself. it is the very same H1N1-A virus..>GOOGLE THE SPANISH INFLUENZA and you will see that its the same virus. Lets pray that the second round doesn't happen like it did in 1918 because by the Fall it was the most deadly ever!!!
EVERYONE STAY SAFE and WASH YOUR HANDS!!!
To LaMatadora: I was not aware this was the same virus as the Spanish Flu - off I go to research again... (My brain is starting to hurt from all this research - I am so exhausted I can hardly think or write anymore, that's why I have not uploaded a hub today, all the research has me worn out...) - just right now I have been reading "El Universal" about the pig farm in Perote, Veracruz, where they are saying there has been contamination with H1N1 and sickness since December, I have to go back and finish that yet.... )
To AEvans: I'm an RN, too - and Microbiology was my favorite class, I got A+'s in it! The simple fact that the virus includes 4 viruses: 2 swine flu viruses, one avian, and one human, from such distant locations of origin, makes it highly unusual, and even impossible that these 4 strains of "A" virus could have combined and reassorted into one virus without having been assembled in a laboratory deliberately.
Combine that with the history of Baxter having been caught red-handed with live H1N1/H3N2 avian/human viruses in their vaccines, which were being shipped to 18 different countries! WHY were there live viruses in their vaccines??
To understand how really horrible this actually was, you must understand that a Type "A" animal virus must be combined with a Type "A" HUMAN virus, in order for it to achieve "reassortment" and be capable of infecting a human and of being transmissible from human to human.
Therefore, obviously and beyond any doubt whatsoever, these 2 viruses were combined purposely in order to render the Avian H5N1 capable of infecting humans. The fact that they were found in the flu vaccines manufactured by Baxter at all, tells us that they were not only purposely combined and reassorted, but that they were put into the vaccines purposely, too.
WHY would they put live avian/human virus capable of infecting humans with Avian Flu Virus into VACCINES???
Also, WHY did THIS man in Mexico start to feeling better soon after he caught this flu, only to DIE when he received the vaccine they gave him???
Look here:
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world/2009042
Also: If they are so concerned about this "Swine Flu", then WHY are they not testing those neighbors' pigs? And WHY are they not administering prophylactic antivirals to poor dead Geraldo's wife and neighbors, who were certainly all exposed to Geraldo's swine flu, as it states in the article?
Another thing: WHAT WAS IN THAT SHOT that they gave Geraldo?
It is a known fact that present flu vaccines are worthless against this "novel flu" virus. Oseltamavir (Tamiflu is touted as one of the 2 antivirals that the virus is NOT resistant to, but Tamiflu is ORAL!! Not a SHOT!) So, then, what DID they give him? Whatever it was, it killed him dead.
Is it a possibility that they are injecting people with avian flu virus contaminated vaccine shots deliberately?
I think - VERY possible.
Very interesting theory...I am very suspicious of much of the obama government. First of all he has closed guatanamo bay and brought the worst of the worst terrorist here then in febuary he gave an executive order to allow Palestinian refugees into our country and live off our tax dollars. He did not go through Congress for this.
I lived in Israel for nearly two years and every single day in Jerusalem alone the Israeli Defense Forces stopped 20 terrorist attacks daily...daily!!! This was by Palestinians!!! Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, etc refused to accept them...hmmm, might there be a reason for this?
This totally wouldn't surprise me and I am sorry about what happened to you, but hey it happened since Obama took office. All Obama talks about is how great he is
His wife was quoted saying "My husband is like a god. He can do anything." wow scary...if he thinks he can do anything...
Oh, and half of congress are Febians...Its Keyens theory on how to make a communist goverment...raise the national debt to extreme levels and make the people owe you. Obama's budget for this year would have put us 7 trillion dollars MORE in debt!
This is my soap box...sorry! Great hub though!
I'm going for wholistic healing and prevention, I don't trust the vaccines, wow, this is a lot to think about. Are they really smart enough to be that organized with this plot?? hmmm I don't know.
Yes, there are lots of questions, lots of fear -news attitudes don't help. But I'm going with marisuewrites and stick with prevention by natural means. My mother nearly died from 1/2 a flu shot in 1991 because she had had bad reactions to 3-4 previous flu shots and doctor would only give her half a shot at a time. She got really ill anyway. We use herbals, homeopathics, silver, 4Thieves oil etc. Just take care of yourself and even if you do get sick, there are lots of good natural things to help. I haven't had a flu shot in over 30 years and don't plan to now. Best wishes, and good comments.
This sickness attacks your immune system by way of a "cytokine" storm...it basically send the wrong sognals to your brain to attack your immune system. The healthier you are, the worse the illness affects you.
I've been reading your posts with great interest. Swine-pest has also reached Austria - all (5) afflicted came back from Mexico. Since the danger of Avian Flu some time back, our Minister of Health (a woman at that time) stocked up on face-masks for the entire population and also on Tamiflu. Guess who made fun of her when she did that? The male politicians! Now all governments waste money - at least she did something sensible with it.
We are told repeatedly through media that there is absolutely NO REASON to worry because there'd be enough medication and precautions taken that suspects of having pig's pest would be isolated and treated with (oral) Tamiflu- and in all such cases where this was done - patients did not die. It is also broadcasted that it is as yet not possible to vaccinate against this kind of flu (=pig's pest).
Coming to this topic in general, it's amazing that science has found how to transplant just about any organ, fly to the moon and now mars is on the agenda, but has as yet NOT found anything that really helps against the flu. The Baxter-vaccine is for the cat - since it's only making you immune against SOME viruses, but not all - specially not the very dangerous ones. But a money printing machine it is - certainly.
Thanks for the recommendation of all the natural remedies you've mentioned here.
For those who have the suspicion having had pig's pest already during Winter - this should STILL be detectable in a blood analysis- if you want to know - have one made on your own expense - ! It's not all that expensive---Since you survived the flu- you'd have the antibodies against pig's pest in your blood- right now still, and for generations to come. Now- how lucky can you get? Sorry - I hope you can see the cynical and funny side of it, too! European jokes are not always apparent to Americans...
I agree, it just seems strange how fast this thing has hit in weird and random places. It hit here in maine, but, they don't know much about it, or how many people were actually isololated. I had the flu for a long time about a month ago, never got swabbed, just a urine sample...probably still getting over it. Also, notice the fact that they call it a disease then go back to virus. It is also spring, allergies and mild colds are about. yes, people are going to get sick. and I think everyone is psyching them selves into it in the U.S. Mexio is a poor city, with bad water, and is way over populated...no @#%% people are going to get sick and die. I dunno about this whole thing, just use common sense. rest, and keep very clean.
My brother thought the same thing, although we live in England. Apparently the main targets to the flu are people aged between 20-45, funnily enough the prime age to have children... He reckons that the government have released this so that many of us die, therefore population decreases and things start to get back to normal, considering the major credit crunch crisis thats going on... I wouldn't put it past them. But anyway, i think your very clever for your inquiries. They are very well thought out and well backed with proof and evidence. I am extremely intrigued with your theory. They say it wont spread and that we will be fine.. THEN a few days later they tell us its inevitable that its going to spread and that there are going to be many deaths that stem from it... Hmm. Could just be us looking too much into things, OR it could be that were the fleas in the rabbits fur that explore to the heights of our world and look beyond what were told to be what 'is' and start to ask why?
Have to say I agree with you. When I first read about it, I thought conspiracy. All major pandemics usually originate from Asia and this hasn't. Next to rice growing, pig farming is biggest in Asia so it is strange. Just heard yesterday that Swine Flu has now arrived in Hong Kong. I think the mass hysteria is instigated by pharamaceutical companies wanting to make money after profits dropped in the current recession
I can't help but agree with you, but.... The opportune time for infection is in the colder months where people are generally inside and in close contact. If it was deliberate, then maybe the timing would have been a bit earlier. Just my 2 cents//
Something disturbing that I just read today A company Novavax has been collecting just these types of flue samples in preperation for coming out with a new vacine to fufil a large govt contract they have recently signed. Their testing has been done on avarian, swine and human viruses with elements from europe and asia swine viruses. H5n1 plus H1n1. All this seems to be the same type that has become the new pandemic, Coincidence? Or a test run? Another biologist specializing in flue vaccines, also states this cannot be a strictly naturally occurring flue, due to the combination of strains which has not been seen before. So, if it's not a naturally occuring event, and appears to have been altered by man, what is this all about? a leak to sell product? A field test of the product? I hope this is being looked at by some law enforcement agencies, as I see a massive law suit in the making, if this has been staged.
Well, I guess everything is happening for a reason. The time has come for USA to deserve the punishment. I have heard that many worst things takes place in USA like, couples abusing infants, churches are transformed to casionos, clubs entertainment parks. Even on a Sunday, u can't find more than 10 people for the mask. And the worst things is what they did to Iraqians. Just imagine how many innocent people would have died during the process of Bush finding out Sadam. What did the innocent Iraqians do to Bush and the Americans.. How many would have cursed the americans. how many would have lost parents, childrems, become handicapped. Do u think their cries will leave the americans just... If all the Americans were against Bush at that time, the war would have stopped.At that time the Americans were flying in the sky but now what happened?Even after he was put to death, has anything improved. All has gone totally worse... Not only this just just imagine the nature defects. Storms,floods, hurricanes, volcanoe eruption. Due to the continuous storm, the ecomony went down in USA and now this flu.. Alltogether the Americans are living a dead life...No one knows who's punishing USA.. God or Sadam
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interesting article
thank you
There are many theories to this present virus. The main spread is from visitors to Mexico who have taken a airplane flight to the region. Thus, it is spreading around the world in different locations.
The main concern is to help these affected individuals through the illness and prevent further spread of the disease. It is a combination of virulent resistent strains of bacteria that cross between birds, pigs and humans.
We must look at the historical success of homeopathy. There are remedies that are specific for these types of symptoms, which are also good for any etiology - whether chemical, viral, bacterial, auto-immune, vitamin deficient, or stress induced. Keep an emergency homeopathy kit in your home for taking care of your family. There are directions for fevers, weakness, chills, coughs, running nose, weakness, cramps, muscle aches, etc. Contact a professional homeopath for the best care. Visit http://homeopathyworldcommunity.com to find a homeopath in your area from any where in the world. There is on-going discussion and live interaction. All the best to keeping our world safe through natural medicine. Debby Bruck
Please visit my hubs on influenza and homeopathy to learn what to do for flu, colds, stress, epidemics and pandemics. They are full of vital information and links.
Thanks to all of you for reading and commenting - this is how we can find answers, by pooling our individual knowledge collectively. To Debby Bruck: thank you so much for your homeopathic information link. I don't know a whole lot about homeopathy, more about herbal and nutrititional, so invaluable, thanks! :)I am working on more info about this, was up all night last night researching, but the text editor is doing its thing again where it won't load, and I have been unable to input my text! Grrrrr!!!
I think posting absolutely unsubstantiated conspiracy theories is irresponsible and foolish.
Maybe just maybe there's a silver lining somewhere"dripping sarcasm* In these recessionary times, maybe one ought to go out and buy Roche and GSK shares. I know India has placed a HUGE order - even before the porcine flu has struck! For medication that was prescribed for the avian flu!
I find your basic tenet very interesting Magic. You certainly got hubbers writing with a vast range of responses. I think it is healthy to discuss the possibitlities of conspiracy. I think it is also healthy to remain calm and logical and take preventative measures - all in the name of sensibility. The flu that has hit us in central Oregon - had the same symptoms you spoke of in your hub. The wierdness of this virus for the last two winters was that you thought it was gone and it kept on coming back. It seemed the whole town had it, it swept through shops, offices, etc. A milder case occurred last year. I think that virus/flu has, in a way, protected many of us during this time of Swine. I recently asked someone what they thought of the Swine Flu and their response was "they just put Swine in front of flu" Thanks for a very good hub.
Thanks for sharing this.
For all of you who are concerned about the spread of swine flu, I was able to find face (dust) masks at Home Depot. Drug Fair, Shop Rite& CVS were all sold out. Then it dawned on me to call a hardware store, since these masks are often used when wood working, and sure enough, right there in aisle 7 of my HD, in the paint section, were all types of masks.
I bought some basic ones, and then a couple that allow for venting, which keeps one cooler, they say. While I don't tend to panic in these circumstances, I am a planner. So, IF I would need one of these, and any one of my friends or family need masks too, I have a supply. Presuming we all escape this viral strain, I'll use them while sanding my next project, or simply return them.
I would advise calling any store you are intending to purchase masks from, as many are sold out, and you surely don't want to be wasting your two most valuable assets--time and health on dry runs. So, do your homework, and be prepared yet continue to live your lives.
Good luck and great health to all of you!
Ms. Morrison
To morrisonspeaks: Thanks for the good advice! Your profile is awesome, and so are your hubs. I love positive people like you! :)
Very interesting article! I would not be surprised if this was intentional although it would never be revealed to us that way. I just try to wash my hands a lot! (And hope for the best)!
Personally i found your theory rather interesting. Being almost vegetarian now I am not worried about the flu as much as others are.
Wow. This is quite interesting and something to really think about. Scary too.
Agreement: We the people are in a big mess, and the government is NOT going to get us out of it. We have to do that ourselves - and several of you have mentioned good things to DO! I had put some 'natural suggestions' on my flu hub, but there have been many others of you give more. Great!!
I'm not hearing that the mortality of this "swine-flu" is any more than any other traditional flu... But I sure am hearing a lot about the pandemic... It does make me wonder...
It makes me wonder if the news media is always trying to create a crisis and abhors a news vaccum, it makes me wonder how much money the antibacterial handsoap makers are raking in, it makes me wonder if the face mask makers are cashing in, but most of all...
It makes me wonder if the drug and medical industries, which are heavily pushing for universal health care in the US (and the massive profits they'll get from adding 50 million more customers), might also have an interest in there being more medical "emergencies"
It does make me wonder.
I believe I have been sick with this swine flu myself. I take good antioxidants when I feel the least bit sick. It went into my sinus and chest real fast. Stomach too. When I got so bad I could barely walk I went to my doctor and she gave me sulfa which snapped me out of it. But the stomach troubles have stuck around not wanting to leave for about 6 weeks now.
jane 3 years ago
yep. 4/26 just reported shertz, universal city, a school in san antonio will shut down tomorrow. Stock up on Tumeric,grape seed extract,Sambucol (black elderberry) garlic capsuls and golden seal. these are natural that the viruses CANT MUTATE AROUND. Lets hope they arent fear mongering us into taking their vaccines.